Tag: euron

Stop the Presses! (re: Euron)

So I haven’t checked in on the WOIAF app for a while, but I came across a r/asoiaf post that rounded up some stuff. This quote grabbed my eye especially:

“The warlocks under Pyat Pree attempt to pursue and avenge themselves on Daenerys, but their ship is taken by Euron Greyjoy, who seizes their alleged dragon-binding horn from Valyria and takes them as slaves.” 

So the dragon horn belonged to Pyat Pree! Makes sense, I guess that they would try to use it to revenge themselves on Dany. 

Does this mean that Euron-the-liar is potentially back on? @poorquentyn, your thoughts?

So do you now believe that Euron DID go to Valyria? If so what is the relevance of Rodrik calling him out at the Shields?

poorquentyn:

racefortheironthrone:

Yeah, pretty much. At this point, the evidence is pretty substantial. 

I don’t know about Rodrik Harlaw – that part still confuses me. Any thoughts @poorquentyn?

I’ve had to reconsider this m’self, because as seriously as I take Euron, I didn’t actually think he’d been to Valyria…until the armor. And I’m willing to bet that was deliberate on GRRM’s part–he’s out to undercut and rattle us with Euron at every turn. As @boiledleather put it in the recent relevant BLAH installment, Euron levels up with every appearance and mention, and our understanding of him is supposed to evolve accordingly. 

So here’s what I got atm: his reaction to the Reader in “The Reaver” isn’t about being called on a lie. After all, back in his introductory scene in Vic’s feast tent, he couldn’t have cared less about Asha calling him on his bullshit RE Balon’s death, or Damphair calling him on his bullshit RE the pirate suit. Why? Because those subjects don’t actually matter to Euron; they’re means to an end. Valyria, though, matters to him, because that is his end. So Euron’s blue-hued smile vanishing upon hearing “have you?” so softly (such a perfectly written moment!) isn’t about his public image being endangered. It’s about his self-conception as the self-made heir of the One True Empire (or rather, heir to its Doom). In other words, mock the pirate suit all you want, but don’t you dare mock the monster wearing it. 

Of course, it could also just be because Euron doesn’t really know how to handle the Reader, especially compared to the heinous alacrity with which he plays his brothers like so many fiddles. 

Bit of a tinfoil theory which I don’t think much of because it kind of lets Euron off the hook…(b/c maybe demonic possession?)

But Valyria and the surrounding seas are called demon-haunted. And from Varys et al., we know that demons are quite real in ASOIAF, and are interested in conducting rituals with humans. 

Maybe Euron freaked out because someone with Rodrik’s book-smarts might guess what he’s about if it became clear that he set foot on demon-haunted Valyria and met its inhabitants? (and maybe struck a deal?)