He could have re-ratted to the Lannisters.
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What do you think will happen to Davos on the show, given that Stannis is confirmed to be dead?
No clue. I’m utterly baffled by what they’re going to do with that botched storyline.
Chapter-by-Chapter Analysis: Davos II, ACOK
With Riverrun 2.0 you mentioned in the Riverlands Economic Development post, you said its central position would allow it to dominate the traffic of the Trident. If this is correct, it would be the perfect place on the Trident for trade, and so would you want to establish a city around the castle?
Eventually, yes. You need to build up population first.
Do you think the number of people living beyond the Wall is unrealistic? I’ve always felt that it was really unrealistic that such a cold and bleak place could offer enough vegetation or game to sustain many people… and not to mention the mammoths and giants…
Not really. The North has a population of 3.5-4 million; compare that to 100,000 in the whole of the Beyond-the-Wall.
Follow-ups on the hill clans: (1) Short of war and annihilation, what could the Vale lords do to integrate the clans? (2) Where else should/might there be clans in Westeros? The Westerlands, the Red Mountains, the larger Southern forests? (3) Given that there is so little Andal-First Men division elsewhere, why do you think GRRM chose the Vale to highlight that split?
1. Probably the Byzantine strategy of evangelizing (both religious and cultural), bribery and divide and rule, mercenary work, and military conquest comes closest, but it’s still more of a delaying tactic, and was never that successful.
2. Well, you’ve got the crannogmen who come close. But the reason why you don’t get them elsewhere is how those regions dealt with invasions – the Riverlands and Iron Islands got overrun way too fast with nowhere to run, the Westerlands, Reach, and Stormlands were strong enough to pull off something close to a Byzantine strategy where they combined intermarriage, conversion, military victory, and land distribution to integrate the Andals into the First Men power structure, and in Dorne, the combination of intermarriage and greater localism meant that First Men power structures survived in the west.
3. Because GRRM wanted mountain barbarians to threaten Cat and Tyrion, and then had to figure out where they came from, way back when his worldbuilding was still in flux.
So, why do you think there’s a difference between the Vale and the Northern clans? Is the ethnic division supposed to be doing all the work? The difference in geography?
Ethnic and religious issues, primarily. The Vale clans are First Men, the men who took their land are Andals; the Vale clans follow the Old Gods, the Andals follow the Seven. So there’s a really sharp cultural division that has hardened over thousands of years, and a real sense of alienation.
Compare that to the hill clans of the North. Rather than a subjugated minority, they were brought into the realm by the Starks defeating the Flint Kings of Breakstone Hill, the same as the Umbers, Glovers, Ryders, Slates, Lockes, Reeds, etc. Rather than being isolated, they’re part of a pattern.
Add to that that the Starks have worked to integrate them – the hill clans trade their cattle and shelter for the winter in the shadow of Winterfell, the Lords of Winterfell come in person to ask for their support in war, and they’ve intermarried with the hill clans. Ned Stark’s kids have Norrey blood in their veins, and their great-grandmother was a Flint.
I read your Riverlands Economic development post stating you wished to create a new power center in the Southern Riverlands since Harrenhal is a deadweight. However, someone also proposed the idea of Trident-God’s Eye canal that you liked, and with this the traffic between the Trident and King’s Landing could allow Harrentown to develop into a city if given a charter. Could this city work as the powerhouse you envisioned?
Maybe? Down the line? But at least in the early stages, building up Stony Sept is easier and is more strategically important.

Hello everyone! Davos is almost, almost finished, but before that mighty behemoth finally lands, let’s see what Tumblr has in store for us this week:
About your Vale economic plan, wouldn’t be more sensible for the Lord of the Eyrie to create a stable & lasting alliance with the mountain clans as opposed to trying to crush them using knightly force? After all allied mountain clansmen can make a landwards attack on the Vale an even bigger nightmare for the attackers than it is currently, and some sort of resource sharing scheme with them might allow the Valemen to expand into the interiors of the mountains and their untapped resource bases.
It’s not a terrible idea, but there’s an underlying problem of thousands of years of guerrilla war and vicious reprisal, as well as the fact that the lords of the Vale are occupying land the mountain clans believe belongs to them. It’s an imperialist/colonialist setup, and there aren’t many historical examples of that ending well.
You might be able to divide and rule, set some of the mountain clans against the rest, and then forcibly relocate the mountain clans down into the flatlands to be put to work and assimilated into the dominant culture – essentially following the Welsh dynamic already extant in the Vale. But even then, you’re talking about colonial warfare and the attempted obliteration of a culture.