People’s History of the Marvel Universe #1

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People's History 1

Face front, true believers! My name is Steven Attewell and I like to write about the intersection of history, politics, and pop culture. You may know my blog, Race for the Iron Throne, where I write about Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire. In my day job, though, I have a PhD in the history of public policy and I teach public policy at CUNY’s Murphy Institute for Labor Studies. In A…

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How should Edmure have handled the Lannister invasion of the Riverlands?

I addressed this in Cat VII of AGOT, but basically he should have done the opposite of what he did – rather than trying to defend every square inch of Riverlands territory, he should have relied on the rivers as defensive multipliers and in general, traded space for time while he was still mobilizing. 

Vance and Piper’s 4,000 men were never going to be able to stop Jaime’s army in the open field – but they could have shadowed Jaime’s advance and slowed it down, giving Edmure time to rally and drill his troops, and then gotten across the river ahead of Jaime. With these 4,000 men still in hand, Edmure would have been at least numerically equal and most likely numerically superior to Jaime’s army – but he likely still would have been outnumbered by both Jaime and Tywin’s armies, so I would not have advised going on the offensive at this point. 

However, as we saw in the OTL Battle of the Fords, the rivers give significant defensive advantages – they funnel the enemy into a limited number of crossing points, negating the advantage of the Lannisters’ bigger armies and allowing Edmure to establish local superiority of numbers, and the crossing itself leaves their forces exposed to missile fire and in danger of being wiped out when counter-attacked. The Tully river-navy could have been used here to great effect, both as siege platforms and essentially mini-castles that you can use to block crossing points. 

Essentially, Edmure should have done the Battle of the Fords in reverse. This may well have meant a siege of Riverrun – so be it, that’s what Riverrun was for. Potentially, he could have stopped the Lannisters there, allowing Robb to link up with the Riverlander army and fight a weakened Lannister opponent. But at the very least, it would have prevented the Riverlanders from being routed and allowing the Lannisters to run rampant with no one there to stop them. 

Even if Jaime and/or Tywin had managed to force a crossing, you leave a garrison at Riverrun to hold the castle, and pull back to the next defensive line – the Blue Fork (and then the Green Fork) in the north and/or various castles in the hills country in the south (ultimately, you’re going to be using Harrenhal as the place to stop any southern thrust). Keep making the Lannisters charge headlong at strong defenses, use your cavalry to attack the Lannisters guerrilla-style along the way just like the Riverlanders did in the Dance of the Dragons when the Lannisters tried marching through the Riverlands, and again, buy yourself time. 

Chapter-by-Chapter Analysis: Daenerys V, ACOK

Chapter-by-Chapter Analysis: Daenerys V, ACOK

“It was not by choice that she sought the waterfront. She was fleeing again. Her whole life had been one long flight, it seemed.”
Synopsis: Dany gets the hell out of Qarth and meets some people along the way.
SPOILER WARNING: This chapter analysis, and all following, will contain spoilers for all Song of Ice and Fire novels and Game of Thrones episodes. Caveat lector.
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About your stance on the Others, are you sure its that simple? GRRM has compared them to the Sidhe and I find that very telling. They’re certainly NOT good, but I doubt they’re Tolkein-esque evil. They seem more amoral than outright evil, they’re inhuman and that means their motives could be extremely complex. I don’t think that they’re secretly the good guys, but most info we have on them is apocryphal and biased, and it doesn’t seen like GRRM to just write in albino Nazgul.

Is

Yersinia pestis

evil? Is a forest fire? They’re omnicidal and that what matters. 

As for the sidhe, let me point you to Pratchett, Terry, Lords and Ladies, page 1.

Do you think Tywin approved of Jofferey & Sansa’s engagement? Or would he consider it a marriage beneath the lofty station of a Lannister heir? Following on that, in case Margeary didn’t exist/was not available/Lannisters managed to win the War without Tyrell help, do you think Tywin would still have allowed Joffrey to marry Sansa, or would he attempt to marry him to someone else(like Arianne) from a House that had not actively taken up arms against the Lannisters?

There’s nothing wrong with Joffrey as the Crown Prince marrying into the family of a Lord Paramount, that’s good dynastic politics. And even during the War of Five Kings, there’s value in getting a claim to Winterfell in the family – hence why Tywin moves quickly to make sure that a Lannister of some kind marries Sansa, both so that the Tyrells can’t and so that a child with Lannister blood will eventually inherit the North. 

So if the Tyrells hadn’t existed, I think Tywin would have been happy enough to see the marriage go through. 

How effective do you think the wildlings are as a fighting force? Much is made of their lack of disclipline, which I assume in the context to mean their lack of battlefield formations and advanced tactics. Are they truly ineffective, and if so, how far do their great numbers go towards compensating for that?

Keep in mind, only about a third of their entire force are fighters. And while Mance is clearly trying to teach them how to form shield walls and fight on horseback, they’re clearly not fully trained or well-equipped.

To me, the analogy here is Boudicca. Her Iceni and Trinovanti forces were capable of wiping out significant detachments of Romans (as at the Battle of Camulodunum) when those forces were isolated, outnumbered, poorly led, and caught off-guard. But give the Romans time to get into formation and let them choose the terrain, as at the Battle of Watling Street, and the Iceni/Trinovanti’s lack of ability to use their numbers in an effective fashion turned them into so much wheat for the reaper man. 

Dear maester Steven, I read that around the time of Aegon’ s conquest the Night’s Watch numbered 10000 men, but late in the reign of Jahaerys I their strength was greatly reduced, and by the start of the story they number only 1000 men. They only seemed to decline after Aegon’ s conquest, and so I was wondering if the Targaryen unification somehow reduced the number of recruits for the Wall?

Probably. My guess is that, back in the day, a large proportion of Night’s Watch recruits were prisoners of war from conflicts, especially between the Westerlands, Riverlands, Reach, Vale, Stormlands, and Dorne. The Highborn get ransomed, but the common soldier is expensive to feed and the Night’s Watch will take them off your hands.