Aegon IV’s death is heavily inspired by the death of Henry VIII, although Henry VIII also had an ulcerated leg wound on top of everything else.
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Do you think a forced regency for Aerys II, perhaps put into motion at or after the tourney at Harrenhal, would have effectively resolved the tensions that led to Robert’s Rebellion? Or would Prince Regent Rhaegar still be brazen enough to abscond with Lyanna Stark, or potentially alienate the lords in other ways? Are there any interesting regencies from European history that might provide good historical context (like the regency of Otto of Bavaria as part of German imperialist politics)?
It would have had a shot, but there are still huge tensions in the political system that I think resolution would be extremely difficult indeed. For one thing, Aerys’ loyalists are going to be heavily resistant to the new regime and there are going to be no few people who will think of Rhaegar as a usurper and (if Aerys is put out of sight) there will be rumors that he’s a kinslayer too.
For another, I think the Southron Ambitions bloc isn’t going to follow Rhaegar’s lead down the line. They clearly had their own agenda and there are going to be moments where that conflicts with Rhaegar’s agenda.
And finally, there’s some powerful factions that are out-of-pocket – the Lannisters, Tyrells, Greyjoys, etc. They’re going to try to exploit the uncertainty and division for their own interests.
What do you think is the fate of House Martell in the books? Are they consumed and utterly destroyed by vengeance, “fire and blood”?
I think they’re going to be in for a bad time – Doran’s plan is going to crumble, Arianne’s marriage to Aegon gets them short-term revenge but the Dornishmen who followed her are going to die, but I think House Martell will still be around to pick up the pieces.
It seems like the Redwynes are the most mercantile of the major lords. Do you think other lords look down upon them for this (I’m assuming they have traditional noble prejudices against merchants) or are they grateful for the wine and the Redwynes’ ability to give the realm a backup fleet? Or are they an old and prestigious enough house that it doesn’t matter?
The last. The Redwynes are too old, too rich, and too powerful for anyone to look down their noses at them.
What do you think is the fate of House Manderly?
Doing well by doing good and vice-versa.
Any idea what the “three spears” of the unsullied refers to? Are they drilled in fighting with three distinct types of spear depending on where they’re positioned in the battle line, or is it suggesting something more like roman legionaries carrying extra spears for throwing?
It’s unclear, but I lean to the latter.
I ask this question, thanks in large part to what I’ve learned by religiously reading your tumblr over the past year: Would it be fare to assume that the Lannisters, post Conquest, never rebuilt their fleets to those glorious standards of the past as a result of the Iron Throne having the sole right to mint coins? The only surviving navies (AC), comparable to BC standards (IB and Arbor), both protect/facilitate their regions economies, while the West do not (to the same degree at least). RSAFan
I don’t think that’s the reason – Casterly Rock clearly has the financial capacity to build enormous fleets, given the money it’s loaned the Crown over the last 40 years.
If I had to pick a cause, I’d say that there was a political split within the elite between those favoring a naval strategy and attendant investments and those favoring a land-based strategy and attendant investments, similar to that which happened in Classical Athens and other places. And these splits tend to be regional and class in nature – naval strategies empower coastal regions, port cities, merchants, whereas the cavalry-intensive armies empower the nobility and rural areas.
@racefortheironthrone, could you please explain that last paragraph more, and how it specifically applies to House Lannister? The Lannisters are in a coastal region and control a port city, which you say would favor naval strength, but the Lannisters are also clearly nobles, which you say would favor cavalry, but … how does that work in a feudal society where the lord paramount gets to decide? I don’t understand what you mean by a political split here.
There are several historical cases where there were political conflicts over whether to invest in the navy or the army, and these conflicts had class dimensions.
For example, during the Persian wars, there was a split over whether Athens should invest its resources (in the form of a rich vein of silver found in its state-owned mines) in land defenses or its navy (the famous “wooden walls” of Athens). Themistocles favored the navy, and Cimon the army. In order to be in the army, you had to have enough money to afford the armor of a hoplite, so its ranks were middle-class and up and the elite of the army was the hippeis, the aristocratic cavalrymen. But anyone of any social rank could join the navy and pull an oar. Themistocles won that political conflict, invested Athens’ money in the navy, and Plutarch writes of a famous moment before the Persian invasion where Cimon publicly sacrificed a bridle at the Acropolis as a symbol that it would be Athens’ working class and not its aristocracy who would lead the war effort.
Likewise, there were recurring conflicts in English/British history of whether to invest state resources in (or design military strategy around) the Army, which was dominated by the nobility with their training in horsemanship and swordplay, or the Navy, which was dominated by merchants’ sons, the middle class, and professionals. And this strategy tended to be played out in partisan politics, with the Whigs favoring the Navy and the Tories the Army.
So how would this play out in the Westerlands? Well, emphasizing the navy would be to the advantage of Lannisport and Kayce and Fair Isle and other coastal regions, since the fleets would be located in their territories, improving their economies, protecting their shores, and hiring their sons as ships officers, whereas emphasizing the army would be more to the advantage of land-locked houses like the Swyfts, Serretts, Lyddens, Leffords, Braxes, etc.
Depending on which side the Lannisters of Casterly Rock favored at any given time, and depending on the individual presence and authority of the given King/Lord of the Rock, you’re going to get different policies. So it may be that, for example, after the loss of Tommen II’s fleet and Brightroar that his successors had a Brandon the Burner-like attitude to the navy and that’s why the Lannisport fleet is small. It could be that Gerion, with his love of travel and his own ship, would have emphasized the navy if he’d been firstborn, as opposed to Tywin who gained his glory through the army. It’s all speculation, tho.
RFTIT Tumblr Roundup, Vacation Edition
RFTIT Tumblr Roundup, Vacation Edition

Hello from Shakespeare’s Globe! Hey folks, I’m writing to you from London, where I’ve been kept very busy with trips to the sights (Trafalgar Square, the Houses of Parliament), the theater district of the West End, and various museums. But in the mean-time, I’ve been able to answer some Tumblr questions, so here we go: Why did the Glovers foster Laurence Snow? The history of secret treaties. Why…
Would a hypothetical post-WftD regress back into feudal Kingdoms (divided into their historical boundaries, but leaving a wide-berth around smoking ruin KL and Oldtown respectively) affect your EDPs? Obviously some changes will have to be made, but can the Kings trade and build industry as effectively as their Lord Paramount predecessors?
The answer is, it kind of depends on what kind of damage the War for the Dawn does. If there’s a massive loss of life, you potentially can have a negative population spiral, because 90%+ of the population are also your primary food producers – lower population means lower production, which means less food available so birth-rates decline, and the spiral continues.
On the other hand, when you have a massive loss of life, you do get a huge increase in per-capita material living standards. As we saw with the Black Death, epidemic diseases kill lots of people, but they leave the land, the houses, improvements, and other non-perishable property intact, and now it’s spread over a smaller population. There’s some scholars who argue that one of the catalysts for the Industrial Revolution was the increase in surplus capital from the Black Death.
In terms of how the political changes might change things…
On the one hand, you now have much more flexibility within your own polity: you have your own coinage so you can set monetary policy, you have your own taxation system so you can set fiscal policy. So if there are institutional barrier at the kingdom-wide level to certain economic development, than potentially moving back to the Seven Kingdoms could ease the way for that.
On the other hand, you now have the added difficulty of international commerce within what was once a single polity: seven kingdoms means seven currencies, which means you have foreign exchange issues; it also means that you need to work out trade deals with the other kingdoms in order to be able to sell your goods outside of your own patch. And of course, any kind of economic development that crosses borders is now made a lot more complicated.