Captain America: Steve Rogers #2: What We Talk About When We Talk About HYDRA

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About a month ago, there was a huge controversy when Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 revealed that Steve Rogers was a HYDRA agent and had always been one. A lot of people, myself included, really didn’t like this retcon. Some other people rather condescendingly said that this was just comic books, it was clearly mind control, or false memories, or some other trick, it’s all been done before, and…

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Hey folks, since the show is done for another season, it’s time to focus on the books again once I get this Politics of the Seven Kingdoms essay out of the way. In the mean time, let’s get to the Tumblrs, because we’ve got some good stuff this week: How to restore the taboos of guest right.  On banning trial by combat (show specific). What kind of armor do men-at-arms use?  Barbrey Dustin and…

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Pentos anon: they don’t have a military, or a body capable of functioning as a police force as far as I can tell, and have no authority over the tends of thousands of dothraki who seem to live there at least semi-annually. So I’d wondered if they can credibly claim to be sovereign over their own territory, or if the economic power of the city-proper and its ability to bribe foreign warlords would be considered good enough

While Pentos’ military has been limited by treaty with Braavos, in a pinch I think the restrictions would stick as much as the ones on slavery have. 

And the Dothraki’s visits to Pentos aren’t any different from those they pay to any other city.  

Does House Arryn have any lands, either direct or through a vassal house, on the western side of the Mountains of the Moon (excluding the area west of Wickenden? I’m particularly interested in the region of the SW corner of the Bite? Various sources (Wiki, ridiculous WorldoIaF maps) indicate that it belongs to the Arryns, yet my common sense and the canon history of the region (pre-Conquest, through the Targ’s reign and the novels themselves) all point to this being near impossible. (1)Thoughts?

Continuation of my Q about the SW corner of the Bite: (2) If this region belonged to the Tullys, would it be a good location for a port town in the context of your Economic Development Plan for the Riverlands? (3) If it is House Arryn’s *cough!, would it be worth the trouble to get your hands on the lands?

1. I’m assuming you mean that strip of land along the coast immediately south of the Sisters, and not the part of the Riverlands along the kingsroad (which the Valemen tried to capture during the reign of Rolland II Arryn, who was defeated and later beheaded by Tristifer V Mudd). 

It’s a bit tricky, because that land doesn’t always exist, depending on the map. (Incidentally, the World of Ice and Fire map of the Vale is completely rubbish – somehow putting the Mountains of the Moon smack-dab on top of the Vale proper, to the east of the Bloody Gate) Some of the various book maps, for example, as well as Tear’s fan map (which GRRM endorsed pre-Lands of Ice and Fire), show the mountains coming up right to the coast as opposed to having this decent stretch of level ground.  

Now, I don’t think it’s that impossible for this land (if it exists) to Arryn rather than Tully – for one thing, it’s substantially to the east of the Mountains of the Moon, which seems to have been the historical boundary between the Riverlands and the Vale. It’s also really close to the Sisters and the northernmost Fingers, suggesting that historically those lands would have been in the orbit of either the Sunderlands or the Coldwaters or the Belmores or the Lynderlys or the Corbrays.

2. As a port…eh. It’s got a couple problems in that White Harbor and the Sisters are already-established competitors really close by, so you’re going to struggle to get off the ground. Exporting your goods into the Vale itself is going to either involve sailing all the way around the coast, in which case why not cut out the middleman and sell to Gulltown directly, or an incredibly expensive and risky mountain portage. If instead you want to export to the south or west, you’re going to run into some pretty steep rent-seeking from the Riverlords (especially the Freys if you want to access Seagard’s port), and it’s not really that much of a time saving compared to just going to White Harbor and taking the Kingsroad all the way down. 

3. It honestly depends on how productive these potentially non-existent lands are. The Riverlands aren’t exactly wanting for farmland, and they have easier ways to access the Narrow Sea through Maidenpool and Saltpans and the like. And it would be very hard to hang onto them, because they could be pretty easily cut off by a force landing from the Sisters. 

Given that the mountain clans can only field three thousand men, compared to the Vale’s forty-five thousand, is there any real hope that they could take control of the Vale, even if they attack at a moment of clan-unity against in-fighting Valelords?

If the Knights of the Vale went to war outside the Vale, say by trying to liberate the North in the name of Sansa Stark…especially if some crazy-like-a-fox war leader like Timett son of Timett was to capture the unoccupied Eyrie…maybe. 

Why do you think that destroying the Sept of Baelor would be worse than the Red Wedding? What would the consequences of destroying the Sept in Westeros?

Because for anyone who believes in the Seven, and indeed the majority of Westerosi do, the Great Sept of Baelor has been the center of the Faith for ~150 years. It’s associated with the closest thing the Faith has to a saint, Baelor the Blessed, who is known to the smallfolk as Baelor the Beloved. 

The Red Wedding is an attack on men, albeit one that violates the laws of both gods and men. The destruction of the Great Sept would be an attack on the gods themselves, the most impious action imaginable. And everyone inside is going to be a holy martyr.

As for the consequences, I think they’d be absolutely lethal to the legitimacy of the regime. You’re probably going to see a new revolt of the Faithful, as all of the Poor Fellows and Warrior’s Sons who survive the explosion (and keep in mind, there’s a lot of them out in the Riverlands atm) rise up, probably spearheaded by Bonifer Hasty’s Holy Hundred in command of Harrenhal. And you’ll likely see substantial defections to any alternative monarch.