Well, it must have been sometime between when he gave the orders to attack Duskendale and the Battle of the Ruby Ford, because he needs to make sure they don’t try to back up their fellow northmen.
Author: stevenattewell
Maester Steven, was the act of oathbreaking, irrespective of what said oath was, ever considered a crime in itself? Thank you and good luck with the WL Part II.
More than a crime, it was an offense against god/s – which is why oaths were made to god/s in the first place, to act as a supernatural enforcer.
Why didn’t Aegon I blockade the Dornish from trade and starve them out, using a combination of the Redwyne fleet and maybe Iron Islands to block the ports and knights from the Stormlands and Reach for the mountain passes? I know this is expensive, but probably not as expensive as all those failed wars.
The Dornish aren’t reliant on trade for basic foodstuffs. Dorne “produces very good exports – exotic produce (olives, peppers, citrus fruits), wines, textiles (Dornish silks and satins), and fine horses,” and imports primarily fine manufactured goods, spices, and other luxuries from Essos.
So that strategy wouldn’t be very effective.
And keep in mind, at the time, Aegon was setting the country on fire from one end to the other, which would probably do more to starve them out than a blockade.
Do you think the chaos of the Century of Blood in Essos & the distinct reigns of Harwyn, Halleck, & Harren resulted in even more international reaving by the Ironborn than under Qhorwyn & a number of Hoare kings before him?
No, I would argue the opposite. In his youth, Harwyn reaved in Essos during the Century of Blood, but his conquest in the Riverlands diverted the attentions of the Ironborn up until the Conquest. After he became King of the Isles and Rivers:
“Harwyn would rule his conquest with a heavy hand until his death, spending far more time in the riverlands than on the islands, riding from one end of the Trident to the other at the head of a rapacious army, sniffing out any hint of rebellion whilst collecting taxes, tribute, and salt wives.”
Likewise, Halleck only went to the Iron Islands three times in his reign, and spent his time fighting “wars against the westermen and stormlanders, and no less than three failed attempts to conquer the Vale.” And Harren the Black spent his reign building his castle and warring against the declining Stormlander empire, so no time for reaving there.
By contrast, once Aegon took the Riverlands away from the Ironborn, Quellon Greyjoy redirected attention to reaving outside of Westeros.
If you were on Drunk History, what would you drink & what topic would you discuss?
6 bottles of wine and zora neale hurston
Mojitos and the 1763 lacrosse game-turned-Indian-takeover of Fort Michilimackinac
Absinthe and Verlaine shooting Rimbaud.
gin & tonic and the lost generation or historical women writers OR the fucking Romantics and their shenanigans
Tequila and the mayans
Spicy margaritas and the Reformation and Counter-Reformation bitchy argumemts between Luther and the Catholic Church
Two bottles of pink moscato and Alice Paul
Captain Morgan and the Romani people
Margaritas and the Great Vowel Shift
André Blush Champagne and the motherfucking Crusades, with an intense focus on Frederick II Hohenstaufen, that rascal
Whiskey, Nashville 1863.
margaritas and the chosin reservoir
bourbon and the cumberland game
Vodka and sex workers.
Blind Archer whiskey and the history of superhero comics with a focus on Jack Kirby.
Either that or the Stonewall riots.
2.75 glasses of Whiskey Sours and the totally illegal and unconstitutional seizure of the sovereign nation of Hawai’i by the United States of America.
i want that one for real tho.
Amaretto sours and the unintentional consequences of the Reformation.
Or the Crusades.
Or the Cold War.
Hard cider and Renaissance Italy and who the fuck has a taxidermied Last Supper of their enemies anyway.
Applejack and the Tudors.
No this is not just so I could filk Henry the VIII I Am while drunk in the rudest terms possible WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT.
(I’m still not really here but someone linked me this:)
Nk’mip syrah and mediaeval English court of chancery. NO SHUT UP IT’S WAY MORE EXCITING THAN IT SOUNDS.
A bottle of port and the human elimination of smallpox.
On the one hand of course I want to talk about an organizing victory I was involved in. So is recent history ok? Then The Defeat of the Jets’ West Side Stadium! It was over a decade ago and is indicative of many fights against sports stadium boondoggles that have plagued our country.
Who doesn’t want to see indicted and disgraced fmr Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver on the screen some day?! We can even work in our people dressed up as 40 story luxury apartment buildings to protest the Barclays Arena. We lost that one, but what a visual!
Or The Rise and Fall of Brooklyn Political Boss Assemblyman Vito Lopez? That takes decades and points to trends in state and local politics that can be observed in cities across the country in post-Civil Rights Era politics.
And I guess I’d have to drink Rheingold followed by Brooklyn Brewery’s Pennant Ale to symbolize the changes to NYC’s waterfront brewing facilities.
And if I can’t talk about something I was involved in then I’d probably choose Jack Kirby vs US Nazi Sympathizers. I’d LOVE to see comedians performing as Mayor LaGuardia and Jack Kirby. And we could all use some images of people taking domestic nazis down a peg.
Now, I need @racefortheironthrone @gothshostakovich and @stalkingrichhall to tell me what they’d do. Cuz those would actually be awesome.
Shoot, I would love to be in the audience for all of Elana’s histories!
And I did recently buy a bottle of Shostakovich and Sollertinsky’s favorite Georgian wine (Tsinandali, a dry white from the Kakheti region) to drink while I work on translating their letters. If someone wanted to film me getting tipsy and talking about their friendship and the early Soviet classical musical scene…I would do it. It would end in tears, but I would do it.
That would be such a good episode! Most Americans know NOTHING of this subject and you would do such an interesting job of it!
Rum and Lewis Baxter.
Then again, my high point as a history nerd is giving an impromptu lecture on Western European history from the fall of Rome to WWI to keep a driver awake during a road trip from Davis to Santa Barbara. Managed to cover political, economic, and cultural aspects, and didn’t get tripped up on the timing of the Reformation.
Is there anything resembling the Dosh Kaleen in history
@racefortheironthrone can almost certainly give a better answer here than I can.
The thing that springs to mind first is the role of women in the
Haudenosaunee Confederacy. See the following series by @extracreditsblog:
Re: Civil War and Slavery, you may already know this, but it is (or was until recently) still being taught as fact in many places that States’ Rights was the actual issue. I grew up in Texas and learned this in 90’s history classes, that “slavery was an oversimplification”, and believed it until 2 or 3 years ago because I had no reason to revisit it. A broken education system is a dangerous thing.
Oh, I absolutely know this. I remember once when I was in junior high that my family went to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras, and we met up with some friends of my parents, and their kid was about to take a test on Civil War history. Being a history buff, I offered to help them study for the test – and when I asked the question about the cause of the Civil War, the answer was “states’ rights.” And then I made the mistake of asking “states’ rights to what?” Bit of an awkward moment there.
Politics of the Seven Kingdoms: The Westerlands, Part I
Politics of the Seven Kingdoms: The Westerlands, Part I

credit to J.E Fullerton/Ser Other-in-Law Introduction: If Part IV of this series was about trying to figure out why the Riverlands, with all its natural advantages, nonetheless became a failed state, and thus come to a better understanding of the dynamics of successful state-building, this essay (and Part VII on the Reach) will be an exploration of what we can learn about the pre-Aegon balance of…
Master Steven, much to my own embarrassment I only recently realised that you own a surname quite comparable to those we see across the Seven Kingdoms (though At-Well makes me think “Dornish” specifically); may I please ask what slogan you would choose for such a House and what you would call your very own stronghold?
I come from a long line of rebellious peasants, so we wouldn’t rate House words.
What’s the deal with Walder Frey’s wives? I don’t think he’s killing them – that doesn’t benefit him. So why have so many died?
He’s more than 90 years old and death in childbirth is common.