
You know, you might be on to something there…
Just a backup in advance of the detumblring

You know, you might be on to something there…

Hey folks! Part I of the Reach is done, and I’m hard at work on Part II, grappling with the many Garths, Gwaynes, Gyles, Garlands, and Gareths – and those rare Gardeners who were somehow allowed first names not beginning in G. I’m also beginning work on Arya II, which is a hell of a chapter and I can’t wait to share it with you. In the mean-time, we have the Tumblrs: Why the wildlings’ economy is…
Two different productions of the Bacchae.
Yes it is. This is not a world where there are clothing stores on every high street – clothes are made by hand, predominantly within the family. Moreover, this is a world in which people live in very small, close-knit communities and are highly suspicious of strangers.
Especially in the North, where people are highly cognizant of the Watch and deserters, no one is going to buy the old “oh no, robbers took my clothes” line coming from a stranger.
This might be show-only, but I believe you’re required to burn the clothes you came in.
Well, that’s the issue – ditching the black clothes when everyone knows that black clothes = deserter = execute…
Well, I think you’ve identified the problem in your theory. The Hightowers are more dominant than the Tyrells in one period only – the Dance – and then not in other periods (the First War With Dorne, Daeron’s Conquest, arguably the Blackfyre Rebellions).
I’m not really seeing the trend you’re describing.
Well, first off, the High Sparrow is an unusual High Septon who prides himself (heh) on his humility and service, so he’s a bit easier to get in contact with than most; second, Osney is confessing to having committed adultery with the Queen. That’s kind of a big deal and would probably get him routed up the Faith’s management structure regardless of who was at the top.
Given the Summer Isles’ history, I’m going to say no:
“The Valyrians offered gold for slaves as well. Then as now, the Summer Islanders were a handsome people, tall, strong, graceful, and quick to learn. These qualities drew pirates and slavers from Valyria, the Basilisk Isles, and Old Ghis. Much woe ensued as these raiders descended on peaceful villages to carry their inhabitants into bondage. For a time, the princes of the isles abetted this trade by selling captured foes and rivals to the slavers.
The histories carved into the Talking Trees tell us that these “Years of Shame” endured for the better part of two centuries, until a warrior woman named Xanda Qo, Princess of Sweet Lotus Vale (who had herself been enslaved for a time), united all the islands under her rule and made an end to it.
Though it took the best part of a generation, the Summer Islanders, led by Princess Xanda’s daughter (and eventual successor) Chatana Qo, the Arrow of Jhahar, ultimately prevailed in what came to be known as the Slavers’ Wars. Though the unity of the isles did not survive her own reign (for the Arrow wed unwisely and did not rule as well as she had fought) slavers even now will flee at the sight of a swan ship, for each of these proud vessels is known to carry a complement of deadly archers armed with goldenheart bows.”
So antipathy towards slavery is a significant part of the Summer Islanders’ culture – carved deep into the Talking Trees they venerate. Likewise, “the Summer Islanders have never once invaded any lands beyond their own shores nor attempted the conquest of any foreign people.”
I find the Arthur comparison to Garth Greenhand surprisingly apt. As you point out, GG exists as a number of different characters. With ASOIAF, I’m never sure what to do with Martin’s coy in-world-historical-skepticism, but I can imagine a Maester trying to tease apart the threads of the legend, and if you asked him: “was there a historical Garth Greenhand,” he might answer: “depends what you mean.”
GG is supposedly: the founder of House Gardener, the leader (or a leader) of the First Men, the father of a lot of other heroes, and a fertility god. The first three (and maybe the fourth!) are all things that definitely happened in Westerosi history – someone was the first Gardener, the First Men into Westeros surely had leaders, the great heroes had fathers (whether or not they were all the same man). From this much material you could spin out a thousand different guesses at a “historical” GG … you could even question whether any of them actually had to be named Garth.
Thus with Arthur. If there was anything like Geoffrey’s version – “King Arthur”, ruling much of Britain and fighting Saxons – then his absence from the historical record is astonishing. (But if you were going to lose a guy like that, 5th-6th c. Britain is where you’d do it.) The earlier references to Arthur present one of two themes: a warleader (not necessarily a king) fighting foreign enemies, or a culture hero akin to Finn McCool or Paul Bunyan. One is part of the historical narrative about Romano-British resistance to foreign incursions, and the other rides around the countryside lopping the heads off giants, sometimes being a giant himself, and having bits of landscape named after where his horse stopped for a drink.
Given that even the nature of the historical context in which Arthur-warleader is found is up for debate, “was there a real Arthur” is up for infinite re-definitions, most of which have to land on “maybe” for an answer. I only see two ways to get a “no” – one is to insist that anything short of Geoffrey doesn’t count, the other is to argue that Arthur was a purely fictional culture hero, who was eventually historicized and attached to a bare minimum of historical events but not to any one man’s deeds (because then you could say that he was the “real” Arthur). At the extreme you wind up with cranks doing bad history and worse linguistics telling you that the REAL Arthur was prince of some valley in Wales or Scotland, not named Arthur, and never fought anybody except other princes of valleys in Wales or Scotland, and ohmygod who cares.
But I still want to know: who was the historical Garth Greenhand?
Good question!
I guess I’d say that I see a couple key differences between Arthur and Garth Greenhand.
So who was the historical Garth Greenhand? I’m not sure. Could be him:

Or him:

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