As good as Logan was, do you think that in some way taints the other X-Men movies now that we know it’s all heading for an unhappy ending where mutants have been scienced out of the gene pool and the X-Men are all dead?

Not really. It’s one possible ending among many, and X-Men have been doing the “averting the dystopic future” thing since 1981. So I don’t have a problem with the fact that Logan is a particularly bleak dystopian future. 

What I have more of a problem with, as I’ve stated before, is that the X-creators have something of a failure in imaging anything but dystopian futures. 

Does “Logan” count as an X-Men story where there’s been progress on mutant rights? No-one except the villain has any prejudice against mutants.

Logan is an X-Men story where the X-gene has been bred out of the population through tailored genetic diseases distributed through the food chain so that the military-industrial complex can monopolize and patent the X-gene to breed slave-soldiers. I wouldn’t call that progress. 

In that scenario, there’s not much prejudice against mutants, because the popular perception is that there are no more mutants – as is stated by the radio host that Logan is listening to early on in the film when he’s driving his limo. 

How would a lord go about redesigning his sigil and/or changing his words? Can he do it on a whim, or does the new design have to be confirmed by a higher authority?

Well, personal sigils seem to be fairly easy to change – hence Littlefinger changing his sigil to the mockingbird, or Garlan and Loras taking a number of golden roses on green.

But as far as I can tell, there’s nothing stopping a lord from changing their sigil at any time – as long as other people recognize their sigil, which is the point of having them in the first place. As long as they’re actually a lord and their sigil doesn’t copy someone else’s without cause, I don’t see the college of heralds having a problem with it. 

Do you think that there’s a problem with Marvel’s handling of the X-men as a minority metaphor in that there doesn’t seem to be any actual in-universe social progress on mutant rights? They constantly hammer home that even the mainstream hates mutants and that otherwise “moderate” individuals are bigots when it comes to mutants. Doesn’t that create the idea that Xavier’s dream is futile? After all other heroes seem to just ignore all the anti-mutant terrorist groups.

Great question!

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I talk about this in greater detail here, but the more accurate description is that social progress on mutant rights gyrates wildly, depending on the direction that the writing and editorial staff want to take with the X-Men. So for example, you have a story where all of the sudden 70s America reacts to mutant-hunting robots tearing up midtown Manhattan by suddenly engaging in a wave of anti-mutant hysteria, as opposed to a wave of anti-robot hysteria. Later on, you’ll have incidents – the X-Men saving Dallas in full view of the TV cameras in Fall of the Mutants, X-Factor saving New York from Apocalypse – that significantly reduce anti-mutant hysteria. 

What you don’t have is much consistency about how social progress is going, because the X-Men hasn’t historically been a book about social movements. As I’ve discussed in that link, the X-Men engage in a particularly elite form of politics, primarily centered around debates, trials, and press conferences, and we don’t really get to see much in the way of social movement organizing. The 1970s were an era of massive social movements of both the right and the left, you’d think you’d see some mutant rights groups organizing on college campuses, liberal big cities, protesting the Registration Act, pushing for a Genetic Equality bill, arguing in the courts that the 14th Amendment covers mutants, etc. Hell, you don’t even get mutant neighborhoods or mutant culture until Grant Morrison’s run. 

Now, related to this is the problem of Marvel and the future. Especially in the case of the X-Men, Marvel has a hard time imagining a future that isn’t dystopic – either anti-mutant dystopic or mutant-supremacist dystopic or Terminator-by-way-of-Apocalypse dystopic – which I admit makes the Dream seem a bit futile, but only really due to a failure of imagination. I’d be really curious to see someone clever take a run at a future America where the majority of the population are X-positive, where superpowers are so common that the distinction between superhero and civilian breaks down – and before anyone says that won’t work, let me point you in the direction of Alan Moore’s Top 10. 

To follow up the ASOIAF/WH40K matchup thing you had going previously: 1) Others = Tyranids (implacable alien foe who assimilate their defeated foes into their army as they attempt to eradicate all other life. 2) Targaryens = Eldar (reduced remnants of an advanced civilization obliterated in a disaster of their own making, but still consider themselves superior to normal humans) 3) Tyrells/Reachmen = Ultramarines (the most numerous faction that are the benchmark for chivalry) >>

>> 4) Ironmen = World Eaters (or Iron Warriors) 5) R’hllor worshippers? = Blood Angels? Kinda-sorta?

I could see the Others as Necrons too. 

And Tyrells…I would cheat and put them in as Bretonnians. 

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