How would a lord of the Vale go about making allies out of the men of the mountain clans and securing their loyalty like the Starks did with their mountain clans?

harlawdecimalsystem:

racefortheironthrone:

Prevent the Andal Conquest of the Vale, I’m afraid. 

The major difference between the mountain clans of the Vale and the hill clans of the North is that the former were driven into the mountains by a victorious invading people and the latter weren’t. Now compound that sense of grievance – the killings, the forced conversions, the seizure of land at swordpoint – over thousands and thousands of years. 

Now, you might point to Jon Snow and Stannis trying to assimilate the wildlings into the North, and fair enough. However, there’s no Gift in the Vale to be given away as reparations/a place in the feudal order, there’s certainly no urgency among the mountain clans about the need to find safety within another society in the same way that the wildings want to get south of the Wall, and…well, how well is the assimilation of the wildlings going? 

Let’s ask Lord Commander Jon Snow.

What’s that you say? Attempts to assimilate a long-hated minority led to a revanchist coup? Or has Olly fallen down the well? 

Do you think any of the first men valelords are a bit sympathetic to the mountain clans in the kind of “give them food/weapons if they go attack their localized enemies” or are they too ‘honorable’?

No, I think the First Men Valelords are too assimilated into Andal culture to do that. Also, I doubt the Mountain Clans view the First Men Houses of the Vale as any different or treat them any differently – indeed, if anything they might hate them more as quislings and traitors who bent the knee to the invaders while the mountain clans kept fighting and paid the price for it. 

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